Nov. 9, 2013—Pursuant to the Memorandum of Understanding Re: Residual Vacancies—City Letter Carrier Craft (M-01824), the first wave of city carrier assistant (CCA) conversions to full-time career status took place Nov. 2.
While the exact number of conversions that took place on Nov. 2 has not yet been finalized, NALC estimates that somewhere between 1,500 and 2,000 CCAs, most of whom had served multiple years as transitional employees (TEs) prior to becoming CCAs, were converted to full-time career status to fill vacant full-time letter carrier jobs.
Those who served as former TEs directly before their CCA appointments will not serve a probationary period as full-time career letter carriers (see M-01826).
As vacancies continue to be filled through the steps in M-01824, more CCA conversions should take place in the coming weeks and months.
Some Cca’s do a good job work harder than any regulars that’s for sure and for about 350 a week think about that see if u think it’s worth it… and I see now they have no plans of making us regular all empty promises and lies to keep you around. Just running all there good help off
Where the hell are these CCA’s I’m in Newport News Virginia and my Postmaster refuses to hire even a 3rd of the amount he’s supposed to. …he get joy out of forcing people to work their days off and ruining their personal and family lives…..
@Michael (AKA Little Bill)
“Deserving ain’t got nothing to do with it.”
Retiring is a personal decision, one you haven’t earn that right yet. Sorry but true.
Some Unforgiven truth,you just crossed the distinction line of age discrimination, your comments are neither polite or respectful.
Here is the correct way to ask…..
All we ask is that you give us as much advanced notice as possible so we can THINK about training a replacement and transitioning.
You could add in there…. How about a years pay up front to help you make the decision? Cash? Hmmmmm?
Yeah Praying on it cause the Hard Working CCAs Deserve it !!!! People that can Retire need too cause their attitudes are horrible with carelessness and just slowing down USPS sorry but TRUE
For the record I’m 58, 36 yrs csrs, vet in good health an spirits. One 12th grader left in school, taking it day by day. My point to the old timers is think before you leap.If an when they offer.
@ Slugfest, above.
You are right, in your situation, a $25K incentive to retire early at 50 is not a very good deal. First, after fed taxes, you will only net about 18K. You would still take a 2% reduction hit for every year you retire under age 55; in your case (age 50) -10%. Permanently, for the rest of your retirement.
If you work 5 more years, you will pick up an extra 2% a year, or in your case, $1200 a year on a high 3 average of 60K. $1200 times 5 years = an extra $7200 a year toward your pension, w/ no early retirement penalty reduction. Say you live 25 years into retirement. 7200 X 25 yrs = $ 180,000 more. Not to mention your annual COLA adjustments each year will be based on the higher figure, going forward.
Unless you can’t stand what you are doing, anyone taking the $ 25K at age fifty and bailing is nuts. Of course, if your health is bad, then it is another story altogether. I am amazed at all the folks that don’t think this thru, and jump at these incentives.
giving full time status is good for the union and bad for management. CCA’S were treated like slaves by management. run or get run was the message. we have had TE’S{ now CCA’S] for 8 years or more. they took a pay cut with no benefits and they were forced to run routes or else. i hope with the new status, they can finally enjoy working for a change without fear of intimidation from supervisors and[ pay for performance] station managers.
Myself Slugfest, I’d take the money and enjoy life while I could, especially at such a young age.
Understand your point, but I’d take twelve additional years of enjoying life via retirement, vs working for twelve more years.
Old news Sucka.
Btw, there is another way of getting rid of that many carriers, that the article fails to mention.
Ending Saturday delivery would do it too, so don’t get your hopes up for a vera.
I believe the Federal Times had around 4K that retired from the PO last month?
Without the layoff clause taken out an slim $incentives$ offer’s how they are going to get a hundred and more thousands to retire by 2015 just around the corner?
A 20 yr old hired in Dec.1983 would be a CSRS with 30 year’s of service but only be 50 yrs old. Correct me if I’m wrong.
If I’m 50 an I got 30 yrs in an making $60K+ a yr with 208 hours AL a yr, in the 440 club with over thousand hr sick time, still have all my hair an can still get it up making 2% towards my retirement each year till I reach a nice 8o% before age 62? Got all this sick time added I’m CSRS- VETERAN.
And you bait me with a offer $25K or less to take a early out? Saying this could be the last?
Im better off in the long run going for that 80%+ a year for the rest of my life….I’ll be just hitting age 62, got a little gold in the TSP…..For those Foot Long Sandwiches, an my under the mattress? For those late nite snacks an them long stroll’s…..
Besides supervisors and generation walmarters bitching all the time makes it all worth it…. Poor little baby’s.
Hey this may the first clue to an early out in 2014. Read on Suckas:
“The Postal Service is predicting a huge number of retirements–41,000–in FY 2014 that starts October 1, 2013. That is only possible if the Postal Service offers Voluntary Early Retirements with an incentive to city carriers. The new NALC contract allows the USPS to replace career City Carriers with non-career CCAs up to a maximum of 15 percent in each District. In FY 2015 the Postal Service expects the number of retirements to drop sharply to about 12,000 annually. That appears to be the end of large-scale VER incentive offers”.
– See more at: http://www.postal-reporter.com/blog/voluntary-early-retirements-for-city-carriers-in-fy-2014/#sthash.3DbsLCJ0.dpuf
Right on Slugfest.
The employer set’s your wage’s not your co-worker.
Sound’s like a hostile work enviormment is being created by these different contract’s.
If you got a problem go to the source the USPS, they are the one who set your pay an benefit’s.
All the oldtimer worker’s will fade into the sunset in all good time.
You new Walmart worker’s are the hear an now. And that’s how the USPS want’s it.
Your hating your co-worker who is not in control of your pay an benefit’s, job, ect. Is on you.
What a mess.
Right on Scott.
Another thing accomplished by the creation of cca’s is the demise of the union, in the future.
Ours could care less about it, no matter how much we try to change their mind.
Sorry omni, you clueless bozo.
I was a swing carrier for years, so I know all to well what’s it’s like to jump from route to route.
I’ve forgot more about being a professional carrier then you ever will.
Well Mr. get real if you think mail carriers are only glorified paperboys, then you should try the job yourself! Until then you are not qualified to say a word about the work. Some people just love to make with the mouth! No experience needed, just babble on! I would love to see you deal with Postal stupidvisors. You couldn’t do it!
Well, it’s nice to see a series of posts that actually stick to the subject for a change. I’m glad CCA’s are getting a chance to become full time employees. As far as who are better workers, it isn’t as simple as a CCA vs. a FTR, nor is it as easy as an active union member and one who merely pays dues. My office for example has four CCA’s right now. Three of them are hard workers and yes they’re chomping at the bit to get converted because we will have some retirements soon and have a position open. They have assimilated well and we’re glad to have them as “family”. The fourth is a loud mouthed asshole who pisses and moans and slings mail all over the place. He’s nearly lost his job due to blowing his top on the workroom floor but the supervisor is a buddy and he “forgot” to discipline him in a timely manner.
Here’s a few facts we can’t get around: volume has dropped dramatically since the old pre-internet days. I used to have swings that just about broke my back every day. Now the younger ones complain if they have to put any residual mail in their pouch! I have two bulged if not by now ruptured discs, have had one shoulder surgery and am probably looking at another, had one hernia repaired and two more that need it except my last two surgeries ate up a lot of sick leave. (Note: don’t abuse your sick leave – I had about 1200 hours and in three years had two major surgeries. You need it.)
The other is a question of personal principle. We have FTR’s who have been here over thirty years or nearly that long who are dishonest goof off pieces of shit. I’ve been there 29 years and deliver twice as much as several routes in my office. And I’m the NALC president! The thing is, a person of character will do the same level of performance regardless of pay because they agreed to do it. If that job isn’t good enough they look elsewhere. Others are there strictly for a paycheck and do more work avoiding it than doing their fair share just because they’re lazy undependable jerks and no amount of money can change that.
However, it’s also true that the less attractive the employment offer, the less sense of dedication is going to go with it. We will in the next five years be swamped with inexperienced lower paid carriers, and the way management bullies them into running, skipping lunches and other crap, the service will suffer dramatically because the CCA’s simply are not being trained to do the job right, nor is there any emphasis on it, just running to make numbers for greedy undeserving managers at bonus time.
If the public thinks service is bad now, wait. It’s fixing to get a lot worse.
Hey city carriers, keep cutting each other’s throats, that’s exactly what management wants.
IPCarrier got this one right. All your TSP is an idiot. Just because you have done the same route for 20 years doesn’t make you a better carrier, moron. Try jumping around on a bunch of routes and see how accurate you are. I bet you’re the same guy that whines when a PTF covers your route and burns it up. “Hey man, doen’t make me look bad”!
People doing the same work should get the same pay, unless they are greenhorn trainees.
Hey, All your tsp belong to us! I couldn’t agree more with your comments about cca’s! However it’s the union thugs that give them that mentality or so that’s what it appears to be like in our office. I also feel that somehow this is the PO’s way of slowly getting prepared for privatization! You know the careless attitude about customer service, accuracy etc. Just sayin’!
CCA’S, for the most part, they are useless, the only ones that are good are the old TE’s
It my opinion, CCA should stand for Crappy Carrier Assistant, and if this is the future of the Post Office, there will be no Post Office in 10-15 years. Very Sad
Sorry lpcarrier, years of service *does* make us better at what we do than a cca. The job performance comparison isn’t even close.
Our cca’s could care less about customer service, accurate mail delivery, etc.
And they’ve all got the “I’m entitled to the same rights/perks as you guys that have been here for decades” mentality.
To “I know “……seriously! I think the PO will offer early outs or should offer early outs to the ones who should retire. Why keep paying the higher scaled people when they can get by cheap! Hmmmm
To all the junior carriers. You should be grateful they converted the CCA’s. If and when they go to the 5 day delivery, they will be the first to go. Reality is a bitch.
Hey Trbone girl….go blow your horn somewhere else. Sounds like the only bitching is coming from your big mouth! You must be one of those union slugs that approached a CCA and gave them your big union talk about getting on board and you knew these naive people would be all over it….but alas you also knew that the union wouldn’t protect them at all! You girl are a disgrace to the human race! Look in the mirror for once and I bet you have loser written on your forehead! No one gets handed their career unless they’re sleeping with the boss to get ahead! Shame on you!
well said lpcarrier and don’t forget the TE in my office who got converted to CCA and lost his 40 hr.route and $6/hr.
for those of you who believe that cca’s shouldn’t be converted into full time positions should be ashamed of yourselves. If you expect these carriers to stick around and complete the same jobs as the rest of us while still being hit with a 27% pay cut, and not deserving an opportunity to become regular your pathetic. These kids come in and work just as hard as the rest of us while making an unfair wage to do so. As for any local ptf’s that have not become regulars while cca’s are being converted should be ashamed of themselves for it is their responsibility to bid on open positions when they become available and if their attendance is stopping them from being accepted for a transfer then they have no one to blame but themselves. We all had to put in time before we were able to become ftr’s what makes their time served any different? A lot of these cca’s have 5-6 years service in right now and have shown more loyalty to our company than many of our coworkers who have absolutely taken advantage of others good nature and the support of our union. Keep in mind these cca’s have been receiving no benefits or sick leave for however long they have been here. And for those of you commenting about how they are being cry babies get over yourself, a carrier that has served this company for 6 years should not make the same monitary pay as one who has simply been here for 6 months, that is not fair. The CCA’s that had put in years as TE’s do deserve to become FTR’s when positions become available and able bodied career employee’s cannot fill the vacancies, and also deserve to be paid accordingly for it. DONT EXPECT OTHERS TO DO THE SAME JOB AS YOUR FOR LESS, YEARS OF SERVICE MAKES US NO BETTER AT WHAT WE DO THAN THEM.
In todays postal service full time can mean 30 hrs. I know it is with a lot of clerk jobs(non-traditional). Are these 40 hr jobs?
And what about Part time reg carriers, are they trying to get rid of those jobs? I have a friend who is a pt reg carrier, I keep telling her to go back full time.
I’m all for employees being promoted to FTR when you put your time in (as some of these cca’s did) however what upsets me is seeing cca’s being promoted when we still have ptf’s (actual career hired employees) still sitting around after years of service and not being given FTR status.
I hope this means the cry baby entitlement minded CCA’s stop bitching. You people got it so easy as cca. Traditional FTR’s (non cry babies) waited years to get FTR status. You ungrateful undeserving pukes waited a couple months. Now that’s not fair! Don’t tell me about TE. You knew it was not a path to career. Unreal! You got handed a career where your coworkers worked years as a ptf. Pisses me off!
Hey get real, they did get a pay cut moron.
Come back when you actually work at the USPS.
Troll.
Of course, probably ten times that many quit….
Hey “Get Real” stuff it! Don’t comment on something you have no knowledge about!
They should get a pay cut, way over paid bunch of glorified paper boys!